Is the character Bernard in Westworld really Arnold?

Answered Jan 17, 2020

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My guess is that, Ford attempted to create a host copy of Arnold, whose human consciousness algorithm was already stored in the System library. We see a virtual Dolores doing the fidelity interview with a long series of virtual Arnold copies (who keep failing).

As we saw with James, loading the human consciousness into a physical host body doesn’t work (yet). It feels trapped inside there, makes mistakes when trying to repeat the conversation for the fidelity interview, and has difficulty controlling the body’s movements.

So Ford figured out that, he needed to let this new host be his own separate person, rather than a copy. Of course, Bernard still isn’t completely independent or autonomous, since he can be commanded by Ford.

Despite looking physically like the original template, Bernard is a new person who sort of evolved from Arnold.

How much of the third season of “Westworld” will take place outside of the robot theme park? How will that affect the overall story?

Answered Jul 24, 2019

Based on the trailer, I am guessing that the majority of Season 3 will be set in a large city in China (i.e. “the mainland”).

There may be some timeline back-and-forth resets.

The trailer suggests that, the protagonist/narrator is an average working guy exploring the personal/spiritual emptiness of a modern high-tech society with servants who are obvious mechanical robots.

It will overlap with the timeline of before and after the uprising at the offshore island where the parks are located.

My guess is that, the protagonist/narrator is a low-level employee of some subsidiary of Delos Corp. Which probably has divisions for things like building construction, etc., (William is a “titan of industry”).

We will see what the world is like while the parks were still operating normally. Maybe get some examples of spoit rich people whose lives were so boring that they decided to pay for the park experience.

We see the protagonist/narrator encounter an ill and distressed looking Dolores. So that will be when she arrives on the mainland, after evacuating the park, and printing a new body for herself.

The implication of the trailer is that, there is a parallel mentality. The hosts in the park are vaguely aware that something is not-quite-right with their daily existence. But perhaps the humans on the mainland are feeling some similar insecurity.

Regarding the park, I predict flashbacks of William, over time. Alternating between his park visits, and his “real world” job as CEO of Delos Corp.

How can the TV series Westworld continue for a third season? It seems like the story of the park is basically over.

Answered Feb 7, 2019

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There will be a lot of flashbacks. We have 30 years of William’s evolution that can be covered. Such as various adventures with Lawrence. In S2, we see young-William+7 years, who is more cynical and cold, but he didn’t become MIB overnight.

Various other characters could get their own backstory episodes.

There is plenty of future potential. Dolores is headed to Arnold’s old house, and there will be some kind of conflict between her and Bernard. The host-Charlotte will try to take control of the Delos board of directors. There might be some intrigue with replacing politicians and business-people with host impostors.

In the post-credits scene of the S2 finale, WestWorld has obviously deteriorated severely. “The system is long gone”. The hosts have some reason to keep resurrecting William, for some kind of mission.

Do you think Dolores will build a new Teddy? One that she has complete control over?

Answered Jan 23, 2019

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First, Dolores (in the host-Hale disguise body), carries five control units (“pearls”) in her purse while escaping. I think one of those is for Teddy, because he is the love of her life.

However, she has already learned her lesson about him. In Wyatt mode, Dolores tried to control Teddy, and make him cruel and violent. Which was against his nature, since, as MIB said, he is here to be the loser. That was why Teddy shot himself in the head.

A main theme of WestWorld is about making individual choices. Even when someone else disagrees.

Dolores now knows that, she needs to allow/enable Teddy to make his own choices. And will try to set him free on the mainland.

Should you listen to a music album’s songs in order?

Answered Dec 18

Yes, musicians may take effort to place the songs in a certain order, to change the mood in a certain way.

The liner notes for Lou Reed’s “New York” directly say that it is intended to be heard in order, in one sitting, similar to a book or a movie.

There are other artists’ albums like this, which may even be organised as a sequential story (Pink Floyd and Roger Waters being an obvious example).

For popular music, some of this was sort of based on having sequential LP records and cassette tapes, where targeting one song on an album was a hassle.

Who do you think will win the bachelor au honey badger?

Answered Oct 28

Both Brittany and Sophie won.

Because neither of them ended up with that barely-conscious, mannequin-like commitment-phobe Nick.

He is a sleazy playa, and they don’t need him.

Nick could barely communicate, had cheesy introductions, and what the hell is up with that hair and mustache??? Somebody decided that this guy is hot, and that numerous actually hot women should grovel for his attention?

He wasn’t looking for any real emotional connection or romance. He just wanted to hook up with all of them.

The cheesy ending with him seeming to contemplate his loneliness looked suspiciously like the cheesy ending of stilted pseudo-drama-filler from a certain John Holmes porn movie from the late 70s. With similar mustache.

Plus, he didn’t want any kind of closure. He wants to continue a pseudo-famous career and go on other reality television shows. He is probably so air-headed as to think that he can get another “The Bachelor” season, and hook up with another series of vulnerable women. But might end up in the background of “Survivor”.

Or maybe he will go on “The Bachelorette”, and he will be grovelling.

Brittany and Sophie are probably going to be BFFs for life now that they are done with that worthless sleazebag Nick.

When did William (aka the man in black) become a host in Westworld?

Updated Nov 2

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Generally, the assumption could be that, William is human in (almost) every scene before the S2 finale post-credits scene.

However, there may have been moments that appeared to be in the “present” timeline, but which were actually rewinds or fast-forwards. The arm-cutting incident was presented twice (before and after Dolores arrives), and might have been two different repetitions.

Related to this is the, “The Stain” speech, talking to his sleeping wife in The Vanishing Point. He is looking down and feeling his right arm, as if he thinks there is something inside.

Before he kills Emily, he says, “It was built in from the start”. Perhaps guests have some kind of device implanted into their bodies, to make the recordings of their actions, and gradually upload their consciousness algorithms to the System. This device may also have been what William used to communicate with the control room, requesting the exploding cigars during the jailbreak.

Next season, there will be a symbolic situation, as William’s shattered right hand is replaced with a robotic version.

Have you noticed that, we know the surnames of Logan and James Delos, Robert Ford, and Arnold Weber, but we have never heard William’s surname? Although this doesn’t necessarily mean anything, since some hosts have surnames, and others don’t.

We know almost nothing about William before his first visit to the park, except that he is from a poor background, probably excelled academically, and married into wealth.

So far (before the post-credits scene), human-to-host-conversions have never worked, and we have only seen it attempted with James Delos. The electronic copy of his consciousness cannot handle being loaded into a host body.

Bernard started as an attempt to resurrect Arnold, but only worked by making him into a different person, only partly based on Arnold. Although, in the S2 finale, Dolores introduces him to William as if he were actually Arnold.

William’s original plan included having his own consciousness uploaded to the System, to be electronically tested, then loaded into a physical host body, and he had aspirations of immortality, like James had. However, William has changed his mind, and is attempting to prevent this. Dolores talks about him wanting to fully destroy himself. He knows that, the System has already decided that humans are simple algorithms that will always have the same bad outcomes, without real choice. This is why, in the post-credits scene, he has the disappointed tone with, “I’m already in the thing, aren’t I?” Then, he says that, he was trying to prove that he really did have a choice, and gets a facial expression with an ironic smile, like he realises he was wrong.

There are other lines, like, “How many times have you tested me?” and also, “Again, and again, and again…” So he knows that he is the most recent in a long series of host-William attempts, which have either failed the fidelity interview, or which have played out repetitions of the same actions, particularly killing Emily.

Previous to this, he may have been tested electronically in the System, but now host-Emily states that, the System is long gone, and this isn’t a simulation (i.e. he is now in a physical host body).

In this scene, it is decades after the “present” timeline, after a war between hosts and humans. The human-William would probably be already dead of old age, at least. Maybe they are punishing all the former guests whose consciousness they possess, by forcing them to relive painful events, like the way that the hosts were looped into painful events. But maybe they are looking for some kind of information that they need.

Perhaps the hosts have conquered humanity, but are now locked into new repetitions and feel like they still don’t have choices(?) Perhaps they are looking to study William, and his ideas of making choices, since that was part of his motivation, going back to the S1 “No choice you ever made was your own. You have always been a prisoner” speech to Lawrence(?)

ETA: It just occurred to me that, in the post-credits scene, perhaps host-Emily also wants a replay, in which host-William makes different choices. Dolores mentioned “The gift of choice” between herself, Arnold, and Bernard. Perhaps this is what will be offered to host-William? Either because the hosts need to have that different replay conducted by him, or perhaps just out of compassion towards her father?

I’ve seen some speculation/claims that, in the S2 finale, there is some back-and-forth timeline switching between human-Hale and Halores. Perhaps this is also shown with William.

Also, there was a very brief glimpse of a rather pissed-off looking William – probably a host-William – sitting in a room at The Mesa, during the general commotion of the uprising.

My guess is that there were host-William attempts being conducted during the “present” timeline, while human-William is still alive.

An interesting point is the S2 “Do you believe in God?” scene with William and Lawrence. Then, William said that, he felt that, he had already been judged. As if, by that point, the System had already told him that he was a hopelessly evil person, doomed to repeat his bad behaviour. And that, he was going to aggressively appeal that verdict.

We know that he is already feeling guilty for Juliet’s death, and her reaction to seeing the recordings of his actions in the park. And is also contemplating his evil attack on Maeve and her daughter. But perhaps this is some kind of host-William attempting to repeat things, and show that, he can choose a different path(?)

In Westworld’s season 1, episode 1, what did Dolores’s father whisper to her? Is it really just “violent delights have violent ends”?

Answered Oct 25

No, this isn’t the only phrase. If it were, then we would have been able to hear it more clearly.

“These violent delights have violent ends” is a line from Shakespeare, and Peter’s previous host-role had been leading a Shakespeare-quoting tribe of cannibals, similar to Wyatt’s men.

There are other command phrases, which are similar, but more specific. These have been transmitted with Maeve, Clementine, Hector, Armistice, etc. It is like a virus or meme.

A command phrase turns on a certain programme or loop or role. Such as making a host become aggressive, when they were previously passive.

How big is the Westworld park?

Updated Nov 5

It is an island off the coast of China.

We see this with the Chinese military arriving during the uprising, although being told to leave by Karl Strand.

We also see this in the scenes with Arnold showing Dolores his house under construction on the mainland.

There are five parks on the same island. Emily travels from Raj World to WestWorld on horseback. There is apparently some kind of large desert area between the parks. Also, it seems that, getting from Sweetwater to the outer reaches of WestWorld takes at least a couple of days or more on horseback.

My guess is that it is that it may be an emptied-out future version of Taiwan.